Comments on: Google God for Guidance http://www.open-secrets.com/questions/google-god-for-guidance/ Exploring the Obvious Sat, 06 Mar 2010 14:31:12 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: John http://www.open-secrets.com/questions/google-god-for-guidance/comment-page-1/#comment-86 John Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:17:11 +0000 http://www.open-secrets.com/26/google-god-for-guidance/#comment-86 The question is not whether bumping your head is reality, but rather that there is a more fundamental reality. This has been the debate through the centuries between intellectuals arguing from the dualistic perspective and mystics coming from an experiential perspective that the intellectuals cannot reference or include in their argument. take a look at this video http://www.open-secrets.com/04/stroke-of-genius/ The question is not whether bumping your head is reality, but rather that there is a more fundamental reality. This has been the debate through the centuries between intellectuals arguing from the dualistic perspective and mystics coming from an experiential perspective that the intellectuals cannot reference or include in their argument.

take a look at this video
http://www.open-secrets.com/04/stroke-of-genius/

]]> By: Lincoln http://www.open-secrets.com/questions/google-god-for-guidance/comment-page-1/#comment-85 Lincoln Sat, 12 Apr 2008 13:10:07 +0000 http://www.open-secrets.com/26/google-god-for-guidance/#comment-85 The Christian position would be to argue that the reverse is in fact true. That humanity is made in the image of God. Therefore we do not assume that God thinks because we do, but that because God thinks, and he has created us like him, we think. We are concerned for human life/choice/freedom, because God first was. Sure mystics can challenge that time/space is reality but they still have to live in that reality. No matter how many times my daughter tries to stand up under the table, she will always bang her head. Sure we can test and challenge reality but no-one can ultimately deny it. The Christian position would be to argue that the reverse is in fact true. That humanity is made in the image of God. Therefore we do not assume that God thinks because we do, but that because God thinks, and he has created us like him, we think. We are concerned for human life/choice/freedom, because God first was.

Sure mystics can challenge that time/space is reality but they still have to live in that reality. No matter how many times my daughter tries to stand up under the table, she will always bang her head. Sure we can test and challenge reality but no-one can ultimately deny it.

]]> By: John http://www.open-secrets.com/questions/google-god-for-guidance/comment-page-1/#comment-82 John Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:39:19 +0000 http://www.open-secrets.com/26/google-god-for-guidance/#comment-82 Lincoln - In fact, I did read the post. Most mystics challenge the notion that the realm of time/space is reality in the way most people assert it. Not that it isn't, as all things are of reality and a manifestation of it, but there is a more fundamental reality underlying time/space. Anthropomorphism, to me, is conceiving God in conceptional terms that are specifically human in nature. The fact that we mistakenly view God as thinking, like we do, or having the same personal concerns as we do is anthropomorhpism. This does not negate the notion of personal from within the divine. Lincoln – In fact, I did read the post. Most mystics challenge the notion that the realm of time/space is reality in the way most people assert it. Not that it isn’t, as all things are of reality and a manifestation of it, but there is a more fundamental reality underlying time/space.

Anthropomorphism, to me, is conceiving God in conceptional terms that are specifically human in nature. The fact that we mistakenly view God as thinking, like we do, or having the same personal concerns as we do is anthropomorhpism.

This does not negate the notion of personal from within the divine.

]]> By: Lincoln http://www.open-secrets.com/questions/google-god-for-guidance/comment-page-1/#comment-81 Lincoln Mon, 07 Apr 2008 15:14:21 +0000 http://www.open-secrets.com/26/google-god-for-guidance/#comment-81 Hey, I'm not sure you even read the post. The point of the post, and more importantly the book which it recommends states the exact opposite. That there is in fact an infinite personal God that communicated in space-time (aka time and space (i.e. reality)). To say something is <em>clearly an anthropomorphism of the divine consciousness</em> without defending the statement is a little lazy. Why is it clear? It isn't anthropomorphism if God actually has personhood. Sure everyone beleives what they want about God but this doesn't mean there that God doesn't have a true nature that can be known. Thanks for linking to my blog though. p.s. for further reading why not try: 'The God who is there' by <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_God_Who_Is_There" rel="nofollow">Francis Schaeffer</a> Hey,

I’m not sure you even read the post. The point of the post, and more importantly the book which it recommends states the exact opposite. That there is in fact an infinite personal God that communicated in space-time (aka time and space (i.e. reality)).

To say something is clearly an anthropomorphism of the divine consciousness without defending the statement is a little lazy. Why is it clear? It isn’t anthropomorphism if God actually has personhood. Sure everyone beleives what they want about God but this doesn’t mean there that God doesn’t have a true nature that can be known.

Thanks for linking to my blog though.

p.s. for further reading why not try: ‘The God who is there’ by Francis Schaeffer

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